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Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 1:54 p.m.
Thread: Do these trades work
The 2nd and 3rd trades definitely do not work, nor are they fair for the other teams.

-Utah is trying to build something sustainable, trading Bjugstad to add depth when they have a ton of cap space and a ridiculous number of extra picks makes no sense.

-Marner trade doesn't work for Montreal. The Kessel trade is a bad comparable because Kessel was younger and, most importantly, Toronto wasn't planning on being as bad as they were and didn't know where any of the picks would end up. They made that trade instead of an OS. Montreal knows one pick is 5th OA and expects the 2025 1st to be top-10. Even if Marner would re-sign in Montreal (and I highly doubt that would happen), he's not going to be a difference maker for them. If you want the Kessel trade, you need to target a team that's more win now (and shouldn't be).
Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 12:07 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 4:04 p.m.
Thread: Our GM cant use the word rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>That's just simply not true at all. At 5v5 Barron played 29.9% of his ice time vs Elite competition, whereas Harris and Kovacevic played 28.2% and 27.4% respectively against Elite competition. In that regard they were very close. The difference however is that while Kovacevic and Harris got primarily defensive zone starts (heavily for Kovacevic) Barron had the majority of his starts in the offensive zone. Also Harris and Kovacevic were regulars on the PK whereas Barron was not.

They won't dump him, he will almost certainly be in Montreal at camp but odds are he will get outplayed by at least one of Reinbacher or Mailloux and will likely be placed on waivers before the season starts. He could absolutely up his game this summer and prove he deserves a roster spot but I would not hold my breath if I were you.</div></div>

I'm starting to understand why your view of Barron doesn't match up with his minutes or other "advanced" stats. I'd suggest doing a little more digging into how Montreal used their D (look a minute weighing outside of elite competition, QoC rel weighing or just plain 5v5 TOI) or actually watch him play (and not just when he was struggling).

Regardless, but the odds that he gets outplayed to the degree that he would waived are exceedingly low. Maybe if he was a year older and had a longer track record of struggling, but I don't see it at all. And frankly, I hope you're right because that would mean SIGNIFICANT growth from Reinbacher and/or Mailloux, and growth of any young D is more important to Montreal in the long run.
Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 3:37 p.m.
Thread: Our GM cant use the word rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Barron is not nearly as defensively reliable as Harris and Kovacevic, he does not bring the type of game that Xhekaj does, and as long as Savard is there he won't take that spot either. We will see once camp roles around but I would be shocked if he outperforms both Mailloux and Reinbacher.

Lets clarify, I am not calling Barron a bust, I am saying his trade value is borderline non-existent right now. Most teams have a Barron caliber player in their prospect pool already. Hell Ottawa placed both Bernard-Docker and Thomson on waivers last year, can you say with certainty that Barron is better than both of them at this point in time? Ask yourself, how much would you pay for Simon Holmstrom or Peyton Krebs right now? Probably not much</div></div>

There is not that much difference defensively between Barron and guys like Harris or Kovacevic, the difference is that Harris and Kovacevic generally played lower in the lineup against weaker competition and Barron was tasked to play a more offensive oriented role.

I'll once again reiterate that I do not care about Barron's trade value, so its irrelevant what I think Holmstrom or Krebs (or Coronato or Pelletier). Montreal is not going trade him or dump him to make room for players you think are further along than they actually are or for players that haven't had the same impact or upside.
Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 2:56 p.m.
Thread: Our GM cant use the word rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Barron is below:
Guhle
Matheson
Savard
Harris
Xhekaj
Kovacevic
Hutson
Mailloux
Reinbacher

That's 9 defensemen.

It is also factual that Montreal has one of the worst d-core's in the NHL right now. That is mainly due to having an average age of 25.3 though. It takes time for defensemen to develop but ~3 years from now a core of Guhle, Mailloux, Reinbacher, and Hutson will probably be quite good.</div></div>

Barron is only below Hutson, Mailloux and Reinbacher in terms of upside (which does not matter in the present). He is simply not below Kovacevic or Harris. He's not even really below Xhekaj, Xhekaj just has a more uniqur/rare/valuable playstyle. It is factual that Montreal's D sucks.

You seem to be conflating your personal opinion of Barron with what Montreal will do. Montreal (or any team) is not going to dump a 22 year old RHD who has been good and shown growth for most of his career to make room for waiver exempt D that have even more work to do, LHD with less upside and impact, and replaceable veterans. Barron would need to stall for a much longer period of time and multiple guys would need to take big steps for that to happen.
Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 6:42 p.m.
Thread: Our GM cant use the word rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>No it's actually significantly higher. Unless Barron takes drastic steps this summer he will remain the 10th best defenseman in Montreal's pool. And considering Montreal's D-core is currently one of the worst in the league that really emphasizes where he stands. I don't think Hughes is dumb enough to block Reinbacher or Mailloux from making the team just so he can keep Barron as a healthy scratch</div></div>

Lol, Barron is not the "10th best defenseman in Montreal's pool." Even if you include guys who have played no NHL games or only a couple. You don't like him or think Montreal's got 9 other "one of the worst" D better? Fine, but your assessment of both Barron as a player and of Montreal's D-core doesn't make any sense.