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Forum: Armchair-GMSun. at 10:38 a.m.
Thread: Major trades and signings
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hawksguy81</b></div><div>For 6 years, no. Definitely not. But if the roster was the same as it is now, I could definitely see the Hawks targeting Jones for at least 3 years to play on top pair. Hawks have no other options on RD, and even if they take Levshunov, he's at least 3 seasons away from stepping into a top pair role. Trading Jones now because you don't think you'll want the contract down the road is really short sighted.</div></div>

Agreed, the Hawks do have an issue an RD... and if they made this trade without a plan in free agency it wouldn't be great next year.... but there are a few RD available in FA that they could sign to 3 year or less terms... even if they had to overpay its still less term and cap than Jones. I'm less worries about Jones right now than I am in the last few years of this contract when the Hawks will need the cap space.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 10 at 11:24 a.m.
Thread: Major trades and signings
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hawksguy81</b></div><div>Except that the Hawks aren't trying to trade Jones or clear his cap hit. Jones is somewhat overpaid now, but that contract will look less and less bad as the cap starts to rise again. And despite all the negativity about him on this site, when you watch him play, especially this season w/ Vlasic as his partner, he played really well. Those two together are a legit top pairing. Now, will Jones play at that level for another 6 years until the end of his contract? Who knows? But the Hawks would rather take that risk than the risk of not being able to resign Marner and not having Jones either.</div></div>

It's an interesting perspective....however, it's also interesting to admit that if Jones were a Free Agent today, would the Hawks sign him to a 6-year, 8-million-dollar deal (less than what he makes now)? The answer is unequivocally no....because his age, contract term, and to some degree, style of play don't fit what the Hawks are doing. This alone should be a reason to try to trade this contract and why I wouldn't be surprised if this trade for Marner happens.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 6 at 9:46 a.m.
Thread: Hawks get creative
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Viqsi</b></div><div>There is precisely one asset in Chicago that would make Fantilli discussions be considered at all, and said asset is decidedly not available.</div></div>

If the Hawks win the lottery, you don't think Columbus would be interested in Celebrini, a 1st next year, a D asset, and a 2nd?
I did this trade because I would rather have Fantilli's size than Celebrini's overall skill. Most articles I've read have Fantilli challenging Celebrini for 1st overall if they were both being drafted this year, but almost none of them have Fantilli over Celebrini - it's a 1A/1B scenario - but Celebrini is 1A.
Either way - I was just messing around - it'll be interesting to see all 3 of them on the same team in the world championships soon.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 28, 2023 at 4:46 p.m.
Thread: Hawks get Bedard and Fantili
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KDev</b></div><div>If the roles were flipped do you honestly think you would accept that trade? The answer is no</div></div>

A couple of points about your comment. I used actual real-world draft pick values to determine this trade and the Hawks actually give up a little more value than they receive, about a 3rd rounder on this. With that said, I believe Fantili to be the real deal, and if he falls to 3 I personally wouldn't do this trade (because of Fantili, but otherwise I would)...unless, I was only worried about short-term and was in win-now mode, which Columbus is in. Could they take a few of those picks and a prospect and turn it into Konecky out of Phily? Probably. Could they bring in a 3rd team and trade these picks in order to get Sheifele out of Winnipeg? Probably.. (Winnipeg doesn't want picks for Sheif). Are either Konecky or Scheifele better than Fantili long-term...I don't think so but Scheif did score 42 last year. Are both better than Fantili next year - absolutely. This draft is historically good and very deep and those early 2nd rounders are very valuable.